{"id":571719,"date":"2026-10-08T21:48:30","date_gmt":"2026-10-08T11:48:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/?guid=8be29a4e8e7da68a8dfa85a0f4e97adf"},"modified":"2026-10-08T21:48:30","modified_gmt":"2026-10-08T11:48:30","slug":"secretary-of-energy-breaks-silence-on-ufos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/?p=571719","title":{"rendered":"Secretary Of Energy Breaks Silence on UFOs"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjnov0v7EZFwYDA32eTHKW27ttmLknDJO5PkMvvh7Y0Agl1Ppib2v69yy0e2eY8E_cElW6MUg6DIsiS3_GIHByKSMDQfdH5vQP6xTAqMe9T-RFGnX_1BQBdTnQiMsIlVVBx_QVKA3jG4enx3-icQ72hWIEmLt94PW9OCTti4iL3KHP8Zn-Eh2vqmbATKBhf\/s600\/UFOs.png\" style=\"display: block; padding: 1em 0; text-align: center; \"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" width=\"500\" data-original-height=\"337\" data-original-width=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjnov0v7EZFwYDA32eTHKW27ttmLknDJO5PkMvvh7Y0Agl1Ppib2v69yy0e2eY8E_cElW6MUg6DIsiS3_GIHByKSMDQfdH5vQP6xTAqMe9T-RFGnX_1BQBdTnQiMsIlVVBx_QVKA3jG4enx3-icQ72hWIEmLt94PW9OCTti4iL3KHP8Zn-Eh2vqmbATKBhf\/s500\/UFOs.png\"\/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><center><big><b><font color=\"bright orange\">Secretary Of Energy<br \/> Breaks Silence on UFOs<\/b><\/font><\/big><\/center><br \/>\n<br \/>\nJesse Michels:<\/p>\n<p>Our American Alchemist this week is John S. Herrington, Ronald Reagan&#8217;s Secretary of Energy, who ran America&#8217;s nuclear weapons complex at the height of the Cold War.<\/p>\n<p>John joined Reagan as a volunteer advance man in the 1960s. He later served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, head of White House personnel, and Secretary of Energy from 1985 to 1989. In this episode, John takes us inside Reagan&#8217;s cabinet: the stealth fighter he found hidden in his own budget, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Edward Teller&#8217;s nuclear-powered space laser, Reagan&#8217;s &#8220;throw deep&#8221; approval of the Superconducting Super Collider, and the secret Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question. He says the Navy&#8217;s UAP videos are real, but calls a Reagan-era alien story &#8220;total B.S.&#8221; and challenges David Grusch and others to show hard evidence.<\/p>\n<p><u>Timestamps<\/u>:<br \/>\n0:00 &#8211; Introduction<br \/>\n1:28 &#8211; Brent Friedman&#8217;s Story<br \/>\n4:26 &#8211; Interview Preview<br \/>\n6:28 &#8211; Sponsors (Zocdoc)<br \/>\n8:14 &#8211; Meeting Ronald Reagan<br \/>\n10:11 &#8211; Reagan and SDI Opposition<br \/>\n11:21 &#8211; Reagan&#8217;s Diaries and Speeches<br \/>\n13:02 &#8211; Strategic Defense Initiative Explained<br \/>\n15:48 &#8211; Edward Teller and Excalibur<br \/>\n17:33 &#8211; Green Fireballs Document<br \/>\n18:47 &#8211; UFOs, Navy Videos and Faith<br \/>\n21:28 &#8211; Herrington Denies Brent&#8217;s Story<br \/>\n24:49 &#8211; The Greenbrier Bunker<br \/>\n27:26 &#8211; Brent Friedman Responds<br \/>\n29:43 &#8211; The 1981 Veranda Conversation<br \/>\n33:04 &#8211; Underground Facilities in West Virginia<br \/>\n35:13 &#8211; Polygraph and Money Questions<br \/>\n36:12 &#8211; Why Brent Went Public<br \/>\n39:01 &#8211; David Grusch<br \/>\n41:36 &#8211; The Politico Journalist<br \/>\n44:32 &#8211; UFOs at Nuclear Sites<br \/>\n46:09 &#8211; Harald Malmgren&#8217;s UFO Debris<br \/>\n49:06 &#8211; A Secret Budget Item<br \/>\n49:23 &#8211; Sponsors (Qualia)<br \/>\n50:59 &#8211; F-117 and Skunk Works<br \/>\n52:30 &#8211; UFOs as Spy Plane Cover<br \/>\n53:15 &#8211; Oak Ridge Document<br \/>\n53:53 &#8211; Garry Nolan&#8217;s Ubatuba Sample<br \/>\n56:57 &#8211; Reagan&#8217;s 1974 UFO Sighting<br \/>\n58:26 &#8211; Otherworldly or Man-Made<br \/>\n59:23 &#8211; Battle of Los Angeles and Secrecy<br \/>\n1:00:34 &#8211; AI and Deepfakes<br \/>\n1:01:26 &#8211; Stratton, Lacatski and Lazar<br \/>\n1:03:31 &#8211; UFOs at Pantex and Fukushima<br \/>\n1:05:07 &#8211; Bobby Ray Inman<br \/>\n1:06:06 &#8211; UFOs and the Ocean Floor<br \/>\n1:07:26 &#8211; CIA&#8217;s Hollywood Liaison<br \/>\n1:09:00 &#8211; Limits on Elected Leaders<br \/>\n1:10:32 &#8211; Exotic Propulsion and Submarines<br \/>\n1:11:28 &#8211; Nuclear Airplanes and Project Orion<br \/>\n1:12:43 &#8211; Nuclear Tests and Roswell<br \/>\n1:13:37 &#8211; The Question of Evidence<br \/>\n1:15:37 &#8211; Palomar Observatory Transients<br \/>\n1:17:13 &#8211; Parapsychology and Precognition<br \/>\n1:18:30 &#8211; Trump and Disclosure<br \/>\n1:20:25 &#8211; Cold Fusion<br \/>\n1:21:26 &#8211; Spies at the Energy Department<br \/>\n1:22:38 &#8211; PROMIS Software and Bill Richardson<br \/>\n1:24:09 &#8211; Genesis Mission and Underfunded Programs<br \/>\n1:25:57 &#8211; Public Fear of Nuclear Power<br \/>\n1:27:10 &#8211; SAIC and Bobby Ray Inman<br \/>\n1:29:01 &#8211; High-Energy Physics and UFOs<br \/>\n1:31:01 &#8211; Marco Rubio on UAP<br \/>\n1:32:54 &#8211; Atomic Energy Act and Rickover<br \/>\n1:35:13 &#8211; Seafloor Recovery and Puthoff&#8217;s Hypothesis<br \/>\n1:37:55 &#8211; The CIA, Gaffney and Casey<br \/>\n1:40:17 &#8211; Closing and Reagan Keepsakes<br \/>\n1:42:45 &#8211; Brent on the Hazing Theory<br \/>\n1:44:18 &#8211; DOE Roswell UFOs as an Initiation<br \/>\n1:47:43 &#8211; Consciousness and Initiation<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"530\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1F7DHbSbgbQ?si=LpSFXTGnY5B2s2m4\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><b><font color=\"bright orange\">YouTube link:<\/font> <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/1F7DHbSbgbQ?si=qZt-jrHd6rOBEzYa\" ><u>https:\/\/youtu.be\/1F7DHbSbgbQ?si=qZt-jrHd6rOBEzYa<\/u><\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Secretary Of Energy Breaks Silence on UFOs<\/p>\n<p>Jesse Michels:<\/p>\n<p>Our American Alchemist this week is John S. 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