{"id":150462,"date":"2024-11-21T13:17:27","date_gmt":"2024-11-21T03:17:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/?p=150462"},"modified":"2024-11-21T15:57:47","modified_gmt":"2024-11-21T05:57:47","slug":"sydney-overnight-rail-services-become-a-sticking-point-in-union-talks-ahead-of-strike-action","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/?p=150462","title":{"rendered":"Sydney overnight rail services become a sticking point in union talks ahead of strike action"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the reasons Sydney trains will grind to a halt this weekend is because of something fairly uncontroversial in other major global cities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The NSW rail union has demanded the state government operate round-the-clock train services across Sydney from Friday to Sunday to avoid a work stoppage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Transport Minister Jo Haylen said it was unfeasible for the government to continue operating overnight train services for maintenance reasons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\" id=\"104626394\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au\/5841b397b1fb87f1a3ff833813719579?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&amp;cropH=3819&amp;cropW=5729&amp;xPos=0&amp;yPos=1&amp;width=862&amp;height=575\" alt=\"Image of a woman against a blurry background at a press conference\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jo Haylen says it is not possible to operate overnight weekend train services.&nbsp;(ABC News: Keana Naughton)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;We can&#8217;t click our fingers and change it overnight,&#8221; Ms Haylen said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;We cannot jeopardise the maintenance of the rail system and we cannot jeopardise the services that people actually need to get to work in the morning and to get home.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Experts say introducing Sydney&#8217;s 24-hour train service would be costly and require changes to operating and maintenance schedules.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Sydney&#8217;s overnight trains ended 35 years ago<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sydney had a 24-hour train network up until 1989, when the Greiner Liberal government ended overnight train services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">University of Sydney senior lecturer of transport management Geoffrey Clifton said the overnight train services ceased because security costs were too high and maintenance was too difficult to undertake.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\" id=\"104626284\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au\/f6d71645e796cf68b1a48de11bb0cbf5?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&amp;cropH=619&amp;cropW=928&amp;xPos=0&amp;yPos=0&amp;width=862&amp;height=575\" alt=\"Dr Geoffrey Clifton\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Geoffrey Clifton says Transport for NSW uses overnight hours to maintain its fleet of trains.&nbsp;(Supplied: Geoffrey Clifton)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Security costs were too expensive, they needed to have security guards on every train and every platform,&#8221; Dr Clifton said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;By running services overnight, they weren&#8217;t able to do maintenance overnight and so they would have to schedule in more maintenance at other times of the day.&#8221;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2024-11-21\/everything-now-didnt-public-transport-services-shutdown\/104626194\">What we do and don&#8217;t know about public transport services during the Sydney rail shutdown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The trains were replaced by an overnight NightRide bus service from midnight to 4:30am, which still operates today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr Clifton said Transport for NSW used the overnight to maintain its fleet of trains, tracks and stations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Currently we don&#8217;t run 24-hour train services because the night times are used to \u2026 do all of those sorts of jobs you can&#8217;t do when there&#8217;s trains running through the network,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He said the current night bus replacement services had been operating &#8220;quite successfully&#8221; for the past 35 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Other global cities have night trains<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2016, Melbourne introduced 24-hour weekend train services which received strong patronage mostly from tourists, revellers and shift workers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Public Transport Users Association spokesperson Daniel Bowen said the nightly services operated hourly and provided reassurance to people staying out late.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\" id=\"104626292\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au\/c86db5c05d26a41400c371a303539499?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&amp;cropH=1080&amp;cropW=1620&amp;xPos=150&amp;yPos=0&amp;width=862&amp;height=575\" alt=\"Man standing outside\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Daniel Bowen says Australian cities should have overnight train services.&nbsp;(ABC News)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mr Bowen said the services operated on all rail lines, except the smaller Stony Point line in Melbourne&#8217;s south-east.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;[The trains] took over from an all night bus service that had previously been offered since the 1990s,&#8221; Mr Bowen said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;The problem with the buses was that they ran along quite different routes to the daytime trains so people weren&#8217;t really familiar with the routes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;It&#8217;s very handy if you&#8217;re out late at night to be able to use the same service to get home after midnight. That does make a difference.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The London Underground offers a NightTube service that operates on Friday and Saturday nights on limited lines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Transport for London said the overnight service cuts travel time for some Londoners by an average of 20 minutes, and in some cases, more than an hour.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\" id=\"104626306\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au\/f20595e936fb7fc9fff79dcac384310e?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&amp;cropH=2000&amp;cropW=2997&amp;xPos=1&amp;yPos=0&amp;width=862&amp;height=575\" alt=\"A woman wearing a face mask, scarf and coat emerges from a set of stairs. A sign says UNDERGROUD: Bank Station\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The London Underground offers a NightTube service.&nbsp;(AP: Alberto Pezzali)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">New York operates a limited late-night service from midnight to 6am.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mr Bowen said Australian cities should consider opening up night train services like Melbourne has.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I think Australian cities are increasingly 24-hour cities. The idea that everyone is at home by midnight is no longer true,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;There&#8217;s plenty of people out after midnight not just at weekends but on other days of the week as well.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ABC News<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the reasons Sydney trains will grind to a halt this weekend is because of something fairly uncontroversial in other major global cities.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":20,"featured_media":150463,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[47,2695],"tags":[5026,10196,2139,7],"class_list":["post-150462","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rail-news","category-sydney-trains","tag-nsw","tag-nsw-government","tag-sydney","tag-transport"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/150462","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/20"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=150462"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/150462\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":150464,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/150462\/revisions\/150464"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/150463"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=150462"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=150462"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vibewire.com.au\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=150462"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}